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dangerous. lightning hit a police officer in joplin, missouri. he is in critical condition. and in amarillo, texas, a look into the future. girl scout cookie sales gone high-tech. that's right. soon you can get a cookie locator app for your iphone or android. order your favorites with the touch of your finger. so i think selling them door-to-door is the good old-fashioned way. that's what i enjoy. "cnn newsroom" continues right now with michael holmes who's in for randi kaye. good to see you, michael. >> good to see you. filling in for randi kaye. it's 1:00 now. we've got a very busy hour ahead as well. let's get straight to the news. 23 people still unaccounted for in the wreck of the "costa concordia." today, divers blew a hole in the capsized cruise ship to make the search easier. soon afterwards, they found five bodies, bringing the total of known deaths to 11. now back on land, the ship's captain still in jail, likely facing a host of criminal
charges, up to and including manslaughter. not only did he not go down with his ship, an exasperated coast guard official had to order him, more than one, to go back and help rescue passengers. here's a portion of an extraordinary audio recording that turned up today in italian media. it's translated on your screen for you. >> quite an exchange, isn't it? we're going to have more on this in "crime and consequence" coming up a little later in the hour. you may not have noticed they are gone, but lawmakers are heading back to work today after a three-week holiday recess. and the unwelcome mat has been
rolled out. occupy congress greeted our elected representatives with a noisy protest and a pink slip for each and every one of them. the protesters may not technically speak for 99% of americans, but in a brand-new cnn poll, 86% disapprove of how congress is doing its job. yes, 86%. tomorrow, some of your favorite websites may be more than a mouse click away. wikipedia, readit, and several other major websites plan to go down deliberately to protest the greatest attempt to reign in piracy. the websites fear censorship, but others including our parent company including time warner says pirates are costing them and the u.s. economy billions. we're going to get both sides of this fight in face time, just a few minutes from now. the republican presidential candidates back out on the campaign trail today, picking up where last night's debate left
off. much of the talk at the events has been about negative ads, super pacs, at one point, rick santorum accusing mitt romney of playing dirty politics. here's how romney responded to the criticism over bad ads. >> i know there's great interest to try and focus on ads, but this is a campaign about 25 million people out of work. this is a campaign about 9.9% unemployment in south carolina. >> and the south carolina primary is on saturday, of course. the candidates are going to get one last chance to go face to face before then at the cnn republican presidential debate. that is thursday, 8:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss that. well, it is deadline day for democrats hoping to move forward with their efforts to get rid of controversial wisconsin governor scott walker. they have to come up with a around 600,000 signatures by today to force a recall election. you'll remember that it was walker's support for an
anti-collective bargaining law that led to massive protests in that state. many blasting walker for being anti-union. republicans are firing back, saying a recall election would push the cash-strapped state an additional $9 million it can ill-afford to spend. celebrity chef, check this out, paula deen, revealing today she has diabetes. >> i was diagnosed three years ago during a regular physical exam with my doctor, that i had type 2 diabetes. and i'm here today to let the world know that it is not a death sentence. >> and diagnosed three years ago. type 2 diabetes is the most common form. the cdc says it's the type that develops later in life, due to -- wait for it -- a lack of exercise and a poor diet. deen defended her southern style of cooking, saying she's always
preached moderation. she also revealed she's working on a drug company with a new project to put diabetes in a new light. diabetes can lead to kidney failure, blindness and heart disease. experts say we could soon be paying $5 a gallon for gas, and by soon, i mean this summer. gas prices right now 30 cents higher than they were at this time last year. now, there are several factors that could push the price from around $3.50 a gallon now to five bucks. the recovering economy could mean more car trips now that people can afford to take vacations, perhaps. then there's the possible showdown with iran in the persian gulf. that could affect supplies. for more, check out this great piece on cnnmoney.com. severe weather starting to hit the pacific northwest right now. you're looking at live pictures from seattle. they're expecting as much as a foot of snow up there over the next couple of days. portland, oregon, could get around half that much.
along with the snow, they're also dealing with hurricane-strength winds along the oregon and washington coast. we're talking 80-mile-an-hour winds. so do watch out if you're in the area. well, if you're going to be surfing the web tomorrow, you could be in for a big surprise. chances are some of your favorite websites are going to be blacked, as in down, offline. so what's behind this virtual blackout? well, it's a complicated story. it involves copy rights, congress, and yes, you. everything you need to know before tomorrow, coming up next. but first, we don't normally call out birthdays for rock star status, but when you are muhammad ali, normal rules do not apply. the three-time world champ turning 70 years old today. and this was the same saturday in his hometown, louisville, kentucky. ali is battling parkinson's disease, of course, but that did not keep him along with wife lonnie and 350 of his closest friends from partying well into
welcome back. regulating the internet is a colossal undertaking, but that's not stopping congress from trying. yes, congress, which is just coming off its least productive year on record. that's a whole another story. we're going to tackle it later. this one is all about something called sopa, the stop online piracy act, aims to protect american movies, music, just about any copy written material
from a virtual black market. it's a long way from being passed, but already it is setting up a showdown between hollywood, which is squarely behind it, as is the u.s. chamber of congress, and silicon valley, which fears censorship of innocent material. tomorrow, a number of high-traffic websites plan to go dark in protest. but on face time, we like to shed the light, of course, and that brings me to this man. declan mccullough has cover ed sopa in depth. let's start with what makes sopa and its close relative, pipa, so objectable to the likes of huge websites like google and wikipedia? >> it's an internet blacklist bill. it says if there's an overseas website and you stick your vacation photos thereupon and a few pages on that website are infringing, maybe more than a few pages, then all of a sudden
copyright holders in the u.s. government can get a blacklist order saying that at&t verizon will pretend that website doesn't exist. you can't get to familyphotos.com anymore and that's the free speech aspect of this. >> on the other side, of course, content creators say they're being robbed blind. in fact, listen to what the film director told us about the movie "ray." let's roll that. >> i went down to canal street and before the box office opened for its first day in the movie theaters, i could buy "ray" on the street at canal, had great artwork on the cover, and had a dvd. >> now, of course, that's not online, that's on the street, but it does raise the whole point about piracy. i've got to be honest, i've spent long periods of time in baghdad. you could get any movie, any time, off the streets in baghdad. so isn't there a point about these guys, these people who are providing this content being protected? >> hollywood does have a point here. you to have websites, the
piratebay.org is probably the highest profile example that do offer movies and music and ebooks as well. so there is a problem. but if you're trying to go after people selling dvds in times square, sopa doesn't address that. local law enforcement should and does address that. the problem is that it takes a hatchet are you need a scalpel, probably. and it does raise these free speech concerns that are a more targeted approach, like the act that probably doesn't. >> tell us a little bit about bill. jimmy wales, the wikipedia founder, you're reading his comments, he's not opposed to keeping an eye out for piracy. he's saying it's too broad and in his words, badly written. what is it about the bill that makes it too broad? >> i don't know anybody who says, we really want to make money out of piracy. wikipedia allows anyone to post
anything and they're worried, and this is why wick immedia immediatepedimmediatpedia is joining the blackout along with craigslist and google is going to have a home page statement tomorrow to say that this raises free speech concerns. it raises security concerns. because it undercuts the security technology that's supposed to make the web safe. it's almost written, they say, by people who don't really understand the internet. >> go figure, politicians not understanding things. what are the chances that hollywood and silicon valley are going to be able to get together and perhaps come up with a compromise? >> well, they have, and they do work together. i mean, youtube has licensing deals, netflix has licensing deals. steve jobs really kicked this off almost a decade ago with itunes. and so there's this kind of love/hate relationship. in terms of what's actually going to happen, tomorrow, you're going to have maybe tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people being alerted to this. say, and to say, contact your member of congress.
so imagine if capitol hill gets bombarded with 10 million phone calls. this is something we haven't seen before. this kind of internet activism, since 1996, in the communications decency act. and so what's going to happen, i think there's going to be some legislation, it just won't be nearly as dramatic as what we're seeing right now. >> declan mccullough, thanks so much, cnet.com. and cnn's parent company, time warner, supports the online piracy act. let's see if there's some changes to it before it actually gets voted on. 11 passengers dead, 23 still unaccounted for. now the focus of the cruise ship disaster centers around one man, the captain. today for the first time, we're hearing dramatic recordings. up next, you'll hear what the coast guard told the captain moments after he abandoned ship. stay with us. back then he had something more important to do. he wasn't focused on his future. but fortunately, somebody else was. at usaa we provide retirement planning
a live picture coming to you from off the coast of italy. five more bodies pulled today from that capsized cruise ship, raising the official death toll to 11. but many others are still missing. this dramatic infrared video shows passengers, you can see them there, lined up on the hull of the ship, some of them climbing down a rope ladder to lifeboats down below. the coast guard today released an angry audio exchange with the captain, who appears to make excuses on why he allegedly abandoned ship while passengers were still on board. we're going to have more on that in a moment for you. the coast guard continues, meanwhile, to search for 23 people who are missing. divers actually blew a hole in one area of the ship in order to get inside. we've got ann animation for you now, to show you what happened. the ship steers too close to the
island, then hits the rocks, then continues ahead, taking on water the whole time, attempts to turn and capsizes. what's the latest on the disaster from your coverage, matthew? >> well, it's this chance. these astonishing, dramatic, perhaps shocking conversations that have emerged between the captain of the "costa concordia" and the coast guard during the time when there were still hundreds of people, hundreds of passengers marooned on board the capsized vessel. some of them just clinging on to the side of the hull for their life. the captain doesn't appear to be fully across the extent of the catastrophe that's unfolded on his ship. if you listen to a part of the conversation, it seems that he's already abandoned the ship, even though there are many, many passengers left behind. it prompted the coast guard to order him to get back on board and to take control.
take a listen. >> you go on board. it is in order. you cannot make any other evaluations. you have declared abandoning ships. now i'm in charge. you get on board! is it clear? >> commandant. >> are you not listening to me? >> i'm going. >> call me immediately when you get on board. our rescue is officer there. >> where is your rescue officer? >> my rescue officer is at the stem. go! >> okay. >> there are already bodies, schettino. >> how many dead bodies are there? >> i don't know. i know of one. i've heard of one. you are the one to tell me how many there. christ! >> so, obviously, a very frustrated coast guard there, talking to a captain who appeared a little detached and who had clearly, you know, at this point, appeared to kind of failed his passengers. later on in the transcripts that we've read and the recordings we've listened to, the captain says that he didn't sort of get off the ship, abandon it on purpose. he says that as the ship listed over to one side, he was
catapulted off the bridge. so that may have been one explanation. it will be for the prosecutors, the investigators now looking at this to determine what actually happened, michael. >> and matthew, there has already been a court hearing and a ruling. tell us about that. and as we know, the italian judicial system is not known for its speed. >> no. and this could take many months before the full outcome of this investigation is known. but captain schettino, who commanded the "costa concordia," has been charged with abandoning his post. he's been charged with causing a shipwreck. and he has been charged with manslaughter. and he could face up to 15 years behind bars if he's found guilty on those charges. but as i say, at the moment, we're just at the very early stages of this investigation. these recordings, though, will not help the case of the captain very much at all. >> and the search, meanwhile, continues for those still missing. matthew chance in london. thanks. well, imagine being with
theirs is a love story. they say it was actually love at first sight. a love that has lasted more than 21 years. but despite that, their life together, their family could be torn apart, all because of a federal law under the defense of marriage act. frederic and mark have been a couple for 22 years.
they were married four years ago in california. they're loving parents to four adopted children and have created a good life together in harrisburg, pennsylvania. but because fricke, who you can see right there, is a french citizen, he faces deportation. immigration officials cannot recognize their marriage under the defense of marriage act, or doma, but he and mark represent a growing number of gay couples facing possible separation under doma. that is today's undercovered story. mark and frederic join us from harrisburg along with their attorney who is in new york. gentleman, thanks for your time. mark, let's start with you. you filed a green card petition for frederic, whose visa expired in september. met with an immigration officer last week in philly. how did it go? what happens now? >> it went quite well. we were received warmly and we had all of our papers from 22 years showing that we have built this life together, as a family. all of our documents, our
documents showing that we have joint bank accounts and such. and after the interview, the official said, you know, you did a great job of proving that you are a family. however, you must understand that the law of the land is doma. a decision wasn't made on that day. it was, as is their way, they will send something to us in the mail within four to six months. >> yeah, it moves slowly, doesn't it? frederic, you've got four kids. how do you live with the uncertainty? >> well, we've been living for 22 years now, you know, every single day, even before we had the children, over ten years, you're traveling back and forth and you know, being together and staying together. and then we had the children. so it's very difficult, but what we try to do is not, you know, share it with the children. they're not completely aware of the situation, so we've been fighting, and you know, another
day is another day with our family, and we're so blessed to be with our family. and we want to remain blessed. >> you know, we actually reached out to the u.s. citizenship and immigration services about your situation, just received a statement from them. i'd like to read it to you. "prudent to the attorney general's guidance, the defense of marriage act remains in effect and the executive branch, including dhs and uscis, will continue to enforce it unless and until congress repeals it or there is a final judicial determination that it is unconstitutional." let's bring you in now. you've been fighting for the gentleman. what are the chance, you really are against the law of the land here. >> i'm glad you read that statement from the immigration service, because you know, it's one thing to say that there's a law that prevents the government from recognizing this marriage, but it's quite another to say that the government cannot respect their marriage and
protect their family. the defense of marriage act, you know, will be the law of the land until the supreme court strikes it down or congress repeals it. but in the meantime, the obama administration could take action today to protect this family. it could make sure that the green card petition that mark filed for fred is not denied. and it can put this case on hold and make sure that they can, you know, begin to build a future, a secure future, for their family without having to worry about deportation. >> mark, let's go back to you. the reality is that there are a lot of people who do support the defense of marriage act in this country. what do you say to them when it comes to your own situation? >> i wonder if they are thinking about actual families with children that they are tearing apart. you know, we have these four children in common that if fred were to be deported, they would lose their father that they've known all their lives.
they know no other person. so i don't think they're actually thinking about how it would affect the children. >> frederic, finally, what happens in the worst-case scenario, if you are not successful, what happens to this family? do you uproot everybody? go to france? >> well, you know, we've been fighting for so long that if we stand up, it's because we stand up for our children. and even if we feel depressed, we feel like sometimes it's so hard, we cannot give up on our kids. and i don't know any parent with a mom or dad who would give up on their children. so we decided, we're standing for our children, and we're saying, no matter what, we will fight for you, so we can stay with you. so we cannot think of failure. we have to think -- >> not an option. >> of moving forward. because we're not doing it for us, we're doing it for our boys and daughter. >> understood.
mark, frederic, and lavi, thank you so much, and best of luck. still to comp, the food stamp president. that's what newt gingrich likes to call barack obama. but some are now calling gingrich something in response -- racist. what do you think? we'll get to that next in "fair game". but first, a question for all of you political junkies. who was president when the first federal food stamp president was launched? tweet the answer to @holmescnn and i'll give a shout-out to the first right answer. . [♪...] >> i wish my patients could see what i see. that over time, having high cholesterol, plus diabetes or high blood pressure or family history of early heart disease, can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup. and they'd see that it's more important to get their cholesterol where their doctor wants. and why for these patients, when diet and exercise alone aren't enough, i prescribe crestor. adding crestor lowers bad
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all right. before the break, i asked who was president when the first federal food stamp president went into effect, the answer, franklin roosevelt. it started as an experimental program back in rochester, new york, back in 1939. congrats to g. raquel for tweeting me the right answer. this is the part of the show where we get to the heart of the political debate. one of the focal points in the republican race seems to be all that negative advertising. also, the super pacs behind a lot of it, ads like the ones attacking mitt romney over bain capital. now, super pacs were born from that supreme court decision that allowed unlimited spending by
groups not actually coordinating directly with a candidate. it may seem appropriate, then, that the second anniversary of that decision is saturday. the same day as the south carolina republican primary. that's because in south carolina alone, super pacs have accounted for nearly 70% of the campaign ads. joining me now, conservative blogger, crystal wright, and cnn political analyst, roland martin. the biggest battle of the super pacs has been between newt gingrich and mitt romney. roland, you know, when you're talking about these negative ads, and they're meant to be at arm's length from the candidates, what damage is being done to the system? what are the candidates saying makes them okay? >> well, first of all, the american people buy into negative ads. they absolutely work. the only reason newt gingrich is upset is because he didn't have all the money for his super pacs in iowa to run against mitt romney. his money didn't come in until north carolina and now south carolina. yes, i do believe when you have this much money, when it is
anonymous, you don't know who is behind it, they are putting the kind of money in, it is damaging because you are moving the people out of this process, but we've known for a long time, money has always ruled politics. >> and then the candidate, crystal, with the most money is going to get the most negative ads on, and therefore influences the most people. is that fair? >> you know what, nothing is fair in politics. all of this hoopla over all these super pac ads, mitt romney had it right. you know what, it's a part of the political game. so if candidates had the ability to raise unlimited amounts of money, we wouldn't have to worry about this. candidates would be held accountable for their own messaging. i think, look, super pac ads like all political ads, if they're negative, they're going to have a negative effect on the opponents. so candidates like gingrich and others and santorum need to really quit the whining, folks. >> shouldn't they be winning based on what they can do, not what the other guy hasn't done? >> yes, that's what the about
thes a -- >> that's never been the case in politics. >> let me play you a piece from rick santorum's event this morning and we'll discuss. >> this is a character issue. i mean, we have a lot of character issues dealing with mitt romney and his ability to be able to hold a consistent policy position on a whole host of issues. but when now he's trying to run for president of the united states and there's ads out there that are absolutely certifiably false and he says they're okay, because it gets him political advantage, this is a huge character issue on mitt romney's part. he needs to step up and do the right thing and quit playing dirty politics. >> crystal, you touched on this before. is it a character issue or just politics? >> it's politics. come on. santorum is upset because romney's super pac ran an ad about him allowing convicted felonies to vote. and i think last night santorum did a great job, you know,
counter to what and contrary to what roland would like to believe. debates are where candidates can put other candidates on the record. >> crystal, what are you talking about? >> excuse me! santorum spent 20 minutes calling out the fact that while romney was governor, he, what? he allowed to stand the fact that felons who were on probation could vote. so negative ads -- wait a minute! wait a minute -- >> one correction. >> so negative ads do have an effect -- >> okay, got that. >> but it's not all in the political process. >> all right, roland, very quickly. >> wrong, wrong, wrong. >> it's so ridiculous. >> crystal, breathe. crystal, breathe. >> barack obama is going to raise $1 billion. >> let roland have a go now, come on. >> crystal, please, breathe. here's the deal, i understand what debates are about. i said early on that rick perry, we'll see how he performs in the debate to determine what kind of candidate he is. i don't disagree with that, that's what debates are about. but the bottom line is this.
the political system has become about money. that shouldn't be a news flash, crystal. it might be to you because you're still talking -- >> it's in the a news flash. >> you might have been able to tell by now, but i'm a bit of a foreigner. i've been here for 20 years, but i look at this system -- >> no, you sound like you're from south carolina. >> yeah, i'm from the deep south. australia. i look at this system and you've got guys from the same party all standing around, beating each other up. how damaging is that to the political party that is doing the beating up? because in the end, they turn around, as we saw jon huntsman do, one day saying he's unelectable, the next saying, he's a great guy. roland, you first. >> obviously, that has always been the case, unlike other countries where it's really about the party and not the person. that's what it's all about. again, remember, when hillary clinton ran those 3:00 a.m. ads against then senator obama in 2008, the gop played on that. this is what happens, because you have an intra-party fight, then you have a general election fight. that's not going to change,
ever. >> is that a good idea, though, crystal? isn't it damaging? >> in 2008, we saw hillary clinton, obama, biden, everybody was slinging the mud every which way. people forget that because it was a democrat primary. fast forward to today -- >> no one forgot. >> excuse me. this is about the process working itself out and the conservative voters coming to terms with whoever the nominee is. it looks like it's going to be romney. and i think it's a good thing for romney. it's like a proving ground. it's a dress rehearsal for what he's going to face against barack obama. >> good to see you. appreciate that. that is fair game. we'll be speaking again, i'm sure. all right, a revelation today from america's favorite southern chef. paula deen says she's got type ii diabetes, but why did it take her three years to come forward and tell us? that's coming up next. copd makes it hard to breathe, so i wasn't playing much of a role in my own life,
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one. interior secretary ken salazar announced a ban on these huge snakes, declaring them injurious. that's one word. the rule makes it illegal to import or sell the snakes across state lines. biologists estimate there are now thousands of pythons in the everglades, where they deviewer everything from marsh rabbits to alligators. on cape cod, at least 20 dolphins have died. up to 50 of the animals have been founded stranded close to score since last thursday. several dolphins rescued have been released back into open water, bringing the number saved to 19. officials say january through april is a high season for dolphins to become stranded near cape cod, but they don't know why so many are appearing right now. country music star garth brooks at the center of a lawsuit. he's suing an oklahoma hospital that allegedly reneged on a promise to name a building after his late mother in exchange for a $500,000 donation. brooks is seeking the return of
the donation he made seven years ago. attorneys for the hospital say brooks made an anonymous and unconditional donation prior to placing conditions. brooks' mother died of cancer in 1999. celebrity chef paula deen confirmed today she has type 2 diabetes. deen, noted for her high-fat, high-calorie southern recipes, says she was diagnosed three years ago. at the same time, deen says she is teaming up with drug maker noef novonortis. >> for years, paula deen has sold america on fatty foods, fried chicken, mac and cheese, and desserts, and has gotten rich and famous in the process. now the food network star has announced what has been whispered for days. she has type 2 diabetes. hey, y'all. i'm here to share something with
you. >> reporter: this is what she told al roker on the "today" sh show. >> i was diagnosed three years ago. i'm here today to let the world know that it is not a death sentence. i'm working along with a very reputable pharmaceutical company. i'm working on a new program called diabetes in a new light. >> reporter: that's right, deen is getting paid as a spokesperson for novonordisk. critics seized on this, like anthony bourdain, tweeting today, "thinking of getting into the leg-breaking business so i can profitably sell crutches later." so why wait three years to go public? will it hurt her? brad is an expert on branding and image. >> there's going to be some sort of raised eyebrows. >> will this tarnish her image?
>> it's possible. it's really too early to say. but it's certainly within the possibility that not only can he rehabilitate herself, but she can reposition herself. >> reporter: and that's exactly what the reigning queen of butter and fat is doing as the new spokesperson for no novonordisk. telling cnn, yi didn't want thi to slow me down. i wanted to take it. >> cutting back on sweet tea. and for a southern girl. that's a big deal. >> deen says her fans have been asking her for years for lighter versions of her recipes, so she'll be doing that. she'll be offering that now. she also says in addition to cutting out that sweet tea, she takes more walks with her husband, michael. she now runs after her grandkids. but the big question remains, michael, is did the very thing that made her famous, those fatty foods contribute to her
current health problems? deen says she doesn't think so and that she's the only one in her family with type 2 diabetes. she also says she has no regrets. people have to eat and that she has always pitched a message of moderation. michael? >> thanks, alina. alina cho there. well, what you pay for gas at the pump is directly related to that right there. yeah, it's called the strait of hormuz and it is a key transit point for a fifth of the world's oil. iran has threatened to block it. that would result in sky-high prices for gas. but the u.s. navy, well, among its plans, these guys right there. dolphins. that's right. we'll talk about it. stay with us. i don't want healthy skin for a day. i want healthy skin for life. [ female announcer ] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture.
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all right. let's go globe trekking now to the strait of hormuz. tension in the region escalating, especially with iran threatening to shut down traffic through the strait. it's important to know this. the strait is a key transit point for one fifth of the world's oil. passes right through there. now, how much you pay at the pump in part depends on the oil supply that is moved through there. there's an awful lot at stake. you're probably already seeing a hike in gas prices because of this situation, just based on emotion. one way iran could block the straight is with an assortment
of mines, but the u.s. navy has a pretty highly effective strategy to get around that. the secret weapon -- dolphins. our kaj larsen we got a rare look at their astonishing ability to detect underwater threats. check it out. >> reporter: playing the role of terrorist in san diego bay, i'm trying to evade a dolphin trained to find hostile swimmers. >> he's not going to make it. he's going to get him. >> out of nowhere -- >> there, she's got him. >> i got about, say, 50 meters from the ship behind me, and then boom, he hit me right here. the dolphin hits me with a marker that alerts armed security to my presence. there was a few seconds where i
thought i was going to make it through. next thing you know, i was staring a porpoise right in the face. in a minute, she's back on her boat and getting some tlc. i guess my combat ship attack foiled again. undaunted, i try underwater with my scuba gear on. here's what the camera on the dolphin saw. underwater or on suthe surface, the dolphin finds me every time. >> so how does she compare to, say you had a side car so nar o the bottom of the boat, what's the difference? >> she has a sense that we could
only dream about in a sonar. >> she's going to hit this ball right here? >> once she's sure that's a swimmer, there she goes. now, at this point, we're going to have to get out of the way of the handler. he's going to go back there and let her know, hey, good girl. thanks for keeping your eye out for us. he's letting her know she did a good job and he's giving her the marker, and there goes the marker. now she's on her way. it's like a shot. >> it's a pretty good little bump. that's one way to put it. >> correspondent and former navy seal kaj larsen joins us on the phone. we have a pretty good idea how dolphins are used to detect threats in the strait of hormuz. give us a sense of how it works when it comes to clearing mines or threats like kaj larsen?
>> well, michael, you're absolutely right. in fact, the program has been around since the '60s when it was a classified program that was designed to help them design a better torpedo, but they found quickly they had other skills that they could use like mine hunting. so what the dolphin or what the mammal does is it uses a very sophisticated form of biological sonar called echo location, very similar to what a bat does in the dark, and that allows it to paint a very accurate picture of an underwater object. from there the handlers work with the dolphins to determine exactly what a mine looks like, and it's a positive reinforcement training. in fact, i have a short video of one of the actual mine hunting dolphins doing that that you can roll right now to get an idea of what it looks like in action. >> over time, we have to train the animals to discriminate between -- you know, it could be a lobster trap -- sorry, got to
pause it -- right now the animal just went positive. >> so what's she doing now? >> right now she's carrying the marker down to the mine shape that she's told us she found. that means the marker has deploy t deployed. the diver is going to go down and do a circle search, verify that the dolphin found a target. >> they're obviously very effective. there is some concern, but they're obviously very good at it. >> absolutely. when i was there in san diego just a short while ago and interacting with the dolphins and observing them during their training, it really is phenomenal to see how quickly they can detect underwater objects, whether that be a combat swimmer like myself or whether it's an underwater object like a mine. they're fantastically accurate. >> kaj, thanks for the report.
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write-in votes the year of that election. alex tweeted me the right answer. good job, alex. for front runner mitt romney there seems to be something missing in south carolina. people. peter joins me now from south carolina. people not present at mitt romney's power event? why? >> it's interesting, you kind of want to wake up and have a big debate rally. today he had a rally in south carolina, and there was only about 100 people in a huge, cav earnous room that really doesn't convey what the romney campaign wants to show. today it's sort of a dismal event from all accounts. so this is not exactly the message that romney wants coming out of the debate after a nice one. he didn't really have a good night, he was off his game last night, i'm afraid.
bad night for mitt romney in south carolina. >> newt gingrich, rick santorum tweeting their messages? >> they really are. you kind of see a non-aggression pact between gingrich and santorum over the last week or so. they've been training their fire at mitt romney and kind of leaving each other alone at this point, but they've really been dividing the vote, and i think they realize they need to kind of separate from each other and rally as individuals. someone wants santorum to drop out of the republican race. i guarantee that's not going to happen. gingrich picked up an endorsement today. this might be the one endorsement you don't want in south carolina. gingrich is facing questions in television ads about ethics violations he had in congress.
ken ard was convicted of over 100 ethics violations. not exactly what you want if you're facing your own questions about that sort of thing. >> political reporter, live from charleston, south carolina. good to see you. all right, thanks for watching newsroom today. cnn newsroom continues with brooke baldwin. over to you, brooke. >> hey, holmes. good to see you in the chair. i'm brooke baldwin. it the top of the hour. rapid fire, let's go. beginning with, i should say, pictures out of anaheim, california. live pictures where authorities are holding or they're about to hold this news conference to give new details today about the man they believe killed those four homeless men over the last month. the suspect here is 23-year-old isakof or izzy ocampo after he allegedly killstabbed a homelesn
and killed him. we're going to bring you the highlights throughout the hour here. meantime, the other huge story we're watching for you, italian navy divers are blasting holes in the side of that sinking cruise ship just to try to find new ways to get inside. live pictures, i'm being told here. as you can see, night has fallen. you can see some of the lights flashing which tells me rescuers are still out there. the ship's captain did arrive in court today and he did not leave. more questions about his behavior. listen to what mr. viber is now saying. >> there were two announcements. there was a problem with the generators, an electrical problem, there are technicians on the way, everything is under control. some people were actually sent back to their rooms. >> again, as we look at these live pictures, this is just off giglio island, this is the tuscan area of italy. we're all over the story in the next couple hours. in fact, we'll be talking to the
friends of those two missing americans, jerry and barbara ann hyle. a former nasa worker is behind bars after addllegedly driving to the home of her husband's mistress and killing him. he confessed to advantage affair and refusing to end it. police say griffin then hopped in her car, drove 250 miles to the mistress's house in missouri, shot her in the head three times. griffin is being held without bond today. she faces first-degree murder charges. health representatives back at work, back at the senate today. yes, they have their work cut out for themselves as they want you to like them. the latest cnn research poll says congress has an 11% approval rating. more on that next hour when we talk about that new payroll tax cut deadline looming ahead of congress end of next month. and the obama administration wants drug companies to document
the payments they make to doctors. this is all according to the "new york times." the proposed rule would cover everything, from research and seeking fees to trips and even entertainment, and it would apply to any company that has at least one product covered by medicare and medicaid. and then the log with the payout to doctors would be posted on a public web site for you to see. just before this scene here, look at this. a big rig plummeted 100 feet, burst into flames, killing its driver. rescuers in california kept that from happening to a mother and her two young daughters. one is a little baby, was inside that car. it dangled from a bridge. this was highway 101 near santa barbara. emergency teams then were able to take the victims straight to the hospital. >> a 40-year-old was flown and the 10-year-old was flown. the young child, the 10-week-old, she had minor injuries and was driven to the
hospital. >> the highway patrol said the truck hit the car from behind. starting tomorrow, some of your web sites will be down. we're talking about wikipedia. they're staging this whole blackout to protest an anti-piracy bill to stop on-line piracy act that is working its way through congress. if it passes, copyright holders could complain to law enforcement and get web sites shut down. time warner, the parent company of cnn, is among the industry supporters of that legislation. and heads up. aaa says the average gas price nationwide is 3.39 a gallon right now. that is up nearly 30 cents from this time last year. and the highest january price on record. saudi arabia's minister promises to pump more oil to keep the prices from hopefully not getting out of control. >> our responsibility is to respond to emergencies worldwide, to respond to our customer demand. and that is really the focus.
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again, just over my right shoulder, you'll see these are live pictures. night has fallen on giglio island off the coast of italy. here's what we know in regards to this cruise ship. na navy divers have been blowing holes in this ship in their frantic effort to find survivors. they did find five bodies, raising the death toll to 11 today, and the 23 still missing include this couple. this is gerald and barbara ann hyle of minnesota. we're going to speak to a good friend of the hyles in just a moment. he's standing by on the phone. let's talk about this captain. this captain by the name of francesco is being held and appeared in court today and did not come out. he is being accused of abandoning ship. dan? >> reporter: he is facing
possible charges of manslaughter, of abandoning a ship, charges which could carry up to 15 years in prison. he, of course, is at the center of this disaster. his employers, the costa cruise company, have already pretty much said that they think that he recklessly decided to go way too close to the shore of giglio island, ignoring warnings on the bridge which would have been visual and audio warnings. they've done a preliminary examination of the gps plot from the black box on board of the ship and seem fairly convinced that his account of what went wrong is wrong. he has maintained that he went no closer than about 300 meters to the shore. they think he was much, much closer than that and that's why he hit this underwater rocks that are now embedded in the hull of the costa concordia.
>> dan rivers, thank you, and please stand by, because in just a couple of minutes, we're going to play this recording. you're going to hear the conversation between the ship's captain, between francesco schittino, and people telling him to get back to your ship. the friends of the missing minnesota couple is on the phone. his name is dennis. dennis, i'm sure you were waiting by the phone, waiting for good news. from what i understand, oou kno -- you've known the hyles for 35 years. you spoke to their daughter this afternoon. how is everyone holding up? >> they're holding up very well. there's contact with them all the time continually, just waiting for word that they found
them. you know, each time you get a news bulletin that they found a body or whatever it is, you're in hope that it's not them, that they're still alive and this type of thing. the family is holding up real well. the news media is bothering them pretty bad. that's something that we were trying to avoid that happening. we were hoping that the news media don't embark on them heavily in demand. >> that's why we're talking to you, and we appreciate you talking to us. from what i understand, the hyles are church-going folks, they've attended the same church for four decades, i understand there have been a number of prayer services for them. and you mentioned the family hopes that phone call will be that their parents have been found in a recovery effort, but how hopeful is the community in which you live? >> we have a prayer service going on continually 24/7, and
we do have a special prayer ceremony tomorrow night at 7:00 for the public and whoever wants to come. we'll have a prayer service for hopefully the return of barb and jerry. >> just trying to learn a little more about barb and jerry. i know they sent all four of their kids to private school. it sounds like this couple oftentimes put others before themselves. is that a fair assessment? >> they did. and they still do. they did put their kids -- all four of their kids to private school right up through high school and then college. they spent a lot of their time educating and getting their kids
through school. >> and this kind of trip, this kind of fancy italian cruise not something they do often. you described this as sort of a honeymoon sort of trip. how so? >> well, through all the years that they gave to their family and to their health that they went through and so forth, it was time that they were able to take time for themselves and enjoy some time together on a trip that they wanted to do. they wanted to go to italy. so it was their trip of a lifetime, you know. >> trip of a lifetime. dennis, i hope you and the hyles get that phone call, the good kind of phone call you're waiting for. dennis, i appreciate you taking a moment and calling in. i want you to hear this recording. ship captain francesco schittino
>> once again, that captain appeared in court today. he is still being held in court. coming up next, we're going to dig a little deeper into the actual crash itself, how the cruise ship ran aground, how divers now are getting inside the ship to check for people. again, live pictures there of that ship grounded, tilted in the waters off of italy. chad meyers all over this. details two minutes away. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do we grow quaker oats?
walk me through what exactly happened. >> a clear shipping channel is between this island where the boat crashed and the mainland, and the shore, which is not that far from rome. these people were on the boat for two hours. this was a two-hour cruise and this boat crashed. the captain, and this happens a lot, was taking the boat close to the island so they could see kind of a vista on the island. clearly too close. he tore a hole in the side of this boat. and the rock that he hit is still in the hull. and it's not that far above the water line. there's the rock. okay, there's the water line. where the black and the white meet, that's where the water is going to be. above the white, and below that is the dark part under water. look where that rock is, it's less than ten feet below the water. you might have been able to see that looking out the bow of the ship. it tore a hole in the side, water began to flood in. the captain said, we have an
emergency but we can take care of it. i'm not sure the captain knew how big that hole was, because water was flowing into that boat. then the power went out because the generators were flooded. then it started tipping over as he started turning the boat back to shore. that turn tilted the boat on its side. at some point in time, you have to think back to the paseidon adventure when we were kids, right? if you have ah walkway and it's that tilted, you can't go up that. so those people were trapped in the bottom on the lifting side if you weren't up on top of that boat. >> there are still 23 people missing. from what i read, they have blasted five different holes, i want to say two under water, three above, in the hull, right? essentially looking for, trying to create openings to get in and search for rescue or perhaps recovery. >> here's what happened when that ship listed. the steel structure up on top began to tilt like a parall
parallelgram. if you tried to open up a door and it's tilted, that door may not open at all because the door frame isn't square anymore, and that door is completely jammed. those people may still be alive in that boat somewhere unable to open the door that they're trapped behind. that's the thought process that not all those souls are lost just yet. >> i hope so. then there's the issue of the fuel, potentially. there is still, what, several thousand tons of fuel. there is the concern that it could leak. it hasn't yet that i've seen, but there is a concern that it could leak. >> there is certainly some fluid leaking somewhere. when you have that much water inside of a boat, it's just going to happen. i think what they're going to do, they're going to patch these holes they just blasted, they're going to patch the hole on the side just like the coal. they will patch it, they will fill it back up with air. they will literally blow air back in the boat, float the boat, salvage it, scuttle it somewhere, whatever they're going to do.
>> so do they get the fuel out before they put it right side up? >> it's probably easier to float that boat and drag it back to a dock rather than pump it out. and remember, it's full of fuel because it just started its cruise. >> thank you. thank you, thank you. as we mentioned, divers right now are searching the cruise for survivors under water in total darkness. what happens when one diver makes a discovery, good or bad? we're going to speak with a dive unit next hour who will tell us what the biggest risk is for these men and women diving right there off giglio island. the republican candidates squared off in a debate last night and there were some feisty moments. newt gingrich said, the fact is that more people that be put on food stamps by barack obama than any president in american history. is that true? how factual is that statement? we did a little checking and got the hard numbers, next.
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that's my world. ♪ south carolina hits the polls in four days. kou count 'em, four days. now the candidates whittled down to five. while mitt romney was the main target, the candidates certainly didn't shy away from president obama. in fact, case in point, here's newt gingrich. >> it sounds as if you're seeking to belittle people. [ booing ] >> well, first of all, juan, the fact is that more people have been put on food stamps by barack obama than any president in american history. [ applause ]
>> so we wanted to cut through the rhetoric, do some fact checking ourselves. let's bring in cnn political reporter peter hanby. he is live in charleston. so, peter, we've heard this from gingrich. is it accurate? >> reporter: unfortunately, yes. the number of americans monthly receiving food stamps, brooke, is over 44 million. that's up from around 26 million or so in 2007 and 2008. of course, you know, it depends how you look at it. the economy crumbled before barack obama took office. he expanded access to food stamps while in office beginning in 2009. so, you know, is the economic collapse barack obama's fault? no. has he expanded assets to food stamps? yes. but politics and debates seem more important at times, and newt gingrich, this is one of his favorite lines. he got a standing ovation for this last night, brooke, and i
have to tell you, having gone through 16 of these debates this year, not once has a candidate gotten a standing ovation. this played right into newt gingrich's hands attacking the political and liberal line of questioning, and it worked quite nicely, i must say, brooke. >> we'll see how it works on saturday. you had rick perry hammering mitt romney on releasing his tax returns to the public. here's that. >> mitt, we need for you to release your income tax so the people of this country can see how you made your money. and i think that's a fair thing. listen, here's the real issue for us. as republicans, we cannot fire our nominee in september. we need to know now. so i hope you'll put your tax records out there this week so the people of south carolina can take a look and decide, you know, if we have a flawed candidate or not. >> again, we know the candidates, peter, they have been hitting mitt romney from all sides when it comes to
making those tax returns public. two questions, i guess, out of this. one, is mitt romney going to do this? and two, legally, does he have to? are there any election laws requiring any of the candidates to do so? >> to answer your second question first, there is no laws requiring him to do this, but candidates have voluntarily put their tax returns forward in the issue of transparency. bob dole did it in 2006, george w. bush in 2000, he put out most of it but not his full return. john mccain did it and newt gingrich says he's going to do it, rick perry has because he's governor of texas. the interesting thing about mitt romney last night, and i was talking about this with the public and different reporters, it's clear romney wasn't really prepared for this answer, because he kind of stumbled and waffled a little on whether he would. he said he might release his tax returns maybe sometime in april. but then again today on the campaign trail after the debate, he said, definitely, yes,
actually, i will release my tax returns and he actually revealed that he estimates he's paying roughly a 15% effective tax rate which is less than many americans pay, and that's the point the republicans were trying to draw out, that mitt romney pays less taxes than normal americans, and i guarantee democrats are going to make that an issue as they try to paint romney out of touch with normal america. >> perhaps we'll hear more on the issue this thursday at our debate in charleston, south carolina. peter hanby, thanks so much for being down there. prit marry is saturday. more disturbing details on the case of a serial killer who preyed on the homeless. the suspect was apparently extremely helpful to homeless people in his community for years. gave them money, donated items to people in need, even when he didn't have much to call his own. more on that story in two minutes. be right back.
first-degree murder. witnesses say he stabbed a homeless man to death, but so many questions remain. how did ocampo's military service like for him? lewis joins us. ocampo felt a deep affinity for the homeless. a deep affinity. >> thanks for having me. when isakof returned from iraq in 2007, he was a different man. he had many psychological issues, many of them very alarming to his relatives. but in addition to searching for bombs in the house and knives that weren't there, in addition to apocalyptic notions, he also
had this profound affinity for the poor. he wanted to give. he didn't have a job. his family was in financial -- dire financial straits, so they sou found it alarming when he would round up toys in the house to give to toys for tots, or when he would buy -- once a year ago he bought two backpacks and filled them with school supplies with money that, you know -- >> he didn't really have. >> -- that he got from unemployment benefits. and he gave them to a local fundraiser for the needy. >> this pen chant for giving to the less fortunate, was this only after he came back from iraq or was this before as well? >> reporter: yes, and i asked his father this as well. his father said he was much more generous when he returned from iraq. his younger brother, who was 17
years old, said, quote, i found it kbroeextraordinary, end quot. >> but you said in your piece that family members found it compulsive and reckless. what did you mean by that? >> reporter: and also foolish. a few months ago, his family traveled up to bakersfield, and they had no money to get back to orange county. so while they were huddlesd on sidewalk to figure out how to get -- that's right, they were actually pawning a nintendo game to get gas money. they were unsuccessful. so while they were coming up with an idea of what to do next, a homeless person walks by and says, do you have any money? and isakof reaches in his pocket and gives the fellow $5. >> it's incredible details just
learning a little more about his personality, but i do want to ask about his deployment to iraq, and what i understand he was inspired to join the military because of 9/11, but his deployment was especially grisly, wasn't it? >> his deployment was particularly grisly. he was assigned to the first medical battalion, which he was putting bodies in bags, and he was looking at -- inspecting the wounded and the dead. but he didn't see action. >> he didn't see action. though he did lose a friend to combat. >> he dealt with the results of combat, that's correct. >> so as you described in your article, he's waking up in the middle of the night, he's screaming, he's searching for guns and knives that aren't there at all. did he ever get help? was he diagnosed with schizophrenia, ptsd, anything
like that? >> good question. the answer is, as i understand it, yes. however, his mother and father told me that he was diagnosed with a particular psychological problem, well, one or more. but their lawyer has asked them not to share that information. >> so, again, where does this stand right now? he now has been charged, from what i understand from this news conference. is that true? >> reporter: yes, he has spent since last friday, since his arrest, on solitary confinement on some kind of medical hold and out of access. he has not been allowed access to an attorney. his attorney today was expected to file a motion or some kind of -- to seek a court order to see isquan for the first time. >> louis sahagun of the "new
york times," really incredible reporting you've been doing. we appreciate you sharing this latest article with bits and pieces about this man. thank you. >> thank you. >> now this. >> these are the kind of manufacturing jobs that states are drooling over right now. i think the average compensation for the hourly folks are somewhere between 40 and $50 fully loaded. >> but do these high-paying jobs come at an even higher cost? we're going to tell you where these jobs are and why they're causing some huge concerns. but first, we picked the quote of the day for you. which news man said this? quote, you don't want to make a steady diet of just lettuce. you don't want to make a steady diet of fried chicken. who said that? after the break.
all right, i've been thinking about this. quote of the day. quote, you don't want to make a steady diet of just lettuce. you don't want to make a steady diet of fried chicken. the answer, the big reveal, is paula deen. she said this in her interview with usa today after revealing that she is, in fact, diabetic. coming up next hour, we're going to hear from paula deen herself. it sounds kind of crazy. man-made earthquakes? many in the town of youngstown, ohio feel it's happening beneath their very feet.
many earthquakes have happened in the last year. critics believe wastewater from fracing is the cause. but others believe it's more. >> reporter: here at this company, the steel business is on fire. and the same thing that's energizing this factory could power cities across america. natural gas released by fracing. to pump it out of the ground, you need steel piping, and that's where you come in. >> you need a lot of steel piping. and obviously that's served us really well. >> reporter: underneath this rural farmland lies the highest energy resource right now, utica shale. and here in ohio, it's what's everyone is talking about. >> the ripple effect of the utica development is really pretty incredible. >> in december of 2008 going
into 2009, i lost my job, so i was totally devastated. >> these are the kind of manufacturing jobs that states are drooling over right now. i think the average compensation for the hourly folks are somewhere between 40 and $50 fully loaded. >> reporter: the question is, is this going to be america's next boomtown? it's a hot topic in youngstown, ohio where a well for fracing wastewater is believed by scientists to have triggered 11 earthquakes since mid-march. >> i've never had an earthquake in my whole life. never even heard of one around here. >> reporter: many are also worried about the possibility of pollution from chemically treated water used to break up rock and free trapped gas, but the industry says it can be done safely. youngstown's mayor has been hearing about it all around town. y >> yes, we need jobs, yes, we need good-paying jobs, but not
at the expense of our environment, of our safety. >> a lot of people are not working. again, we need the income tax. >> reporter: the industry is bringing jobs. one study estimates 200,000 in ohio by 2015. and others are profiting in different ways. >> landowners are getting some very sweet deals. $5,000 an acre. >> reporter: are people becoming millionaires by leasing their land out or selling their mineral rights? >> they're getting really close. >> reporter: all over this region, you have people who have sold the mineral rights to their land for fracing, and they end up with wells just like this one in their backyard pumping out natural gas 24/7. >> we thought with everyone else drilling around us, we might as well join the bandwagon. >> reporter: he sold his mineral rights nearly a year ago and it's pitting neighbor against neighbor. >> i think i'm probably the environmental holdout around here. >> reporter: but pat's neighbor karen is likely to see much more
fracing here. just this month, french and chinese companies invested billions of dollars to tap these rich resources. from start to finish, fracing is an explosive topic in what just may be america's next boom town. >> poppy harley asked if people were becoming millionaires, and he said just about. how much money is made to tap for natural gas? >> millions and millions of dollars. part of why we went there is because it is that wow factor. it is increasing dramatically every single week. interestingly, not long ago, france banned fracing. you saw people come into ohio specifically and invest $2 billion into fracing there. you saw the same thing with the
major chinese companies, sinepec. companies like you're looking at, tintin, is making so much on the deal, they can't hire enough. people are very worried about the ripple effect. what i heard from people over and over again is, is the industry moving too fast, but this town really needs it. >> the number that jumped out to me was 200,000. that's the number of jobs this city could see by 2013. retalk long term jobs, or here today, gone tomorrow? >> right, and does the boom town last or only as long as the resources are? in north dakota, where they've got 3% unemployment across the state, it's because they're a boom town. there is a woman i met in ohio at a dinner who is from ohio and she's benefitting because of the oil and gas, but she told me, i'm worried that they're promising false jobs here.
her friends are going to school and training to get these jobs. she's afraid they won't be there long term. that's the fright of a boom town. is it a little spurt, a jolt or a long-time shift? we'll see, and it depends how many resources can be tapped there, how it's done, and i think mainly what regulation has to say about it all. >> it sounds like a lot of unknowns. if you want to read more, go to cnn.com. massive snowstorms across the united states. live pictures. look at this. blankets of snow. chad meyers coming back to give you the skinny on the weather. brace yourselves, folks. [ kate ] most women may not be properly absorbing
twin winter storms slamming the pacific northwest, one after another. in fact, seattle could see the biggest snowfall since the 1940s. live pictures once again. we call this snowy in seattle. expecting snow the rest of the week. mountains east of there could get several feet. chad meyers looking at the web site. it's just a warm-up for the pacific northwest. >> tomorrow it gets cold and about 26 degrees for tomorrow afternoon, and that's when the snow will be real. and that's when it will stick. in fact, seattle, you have a chance in the next 48 hours to pick up your typical one-year snowfall total. somewhere between 11 and 12
inches possible, and that is your normal annual snowfall any one year. the snow is still back here in the pacific and so is the moisture. the first batch getting to you right now. we're talking portland and olympics and cascades. they could easily pick up 3 to 5 feet of snow. that could cause avalanche danger as well, so keep that in mind. the dark purple well above 20 inches. that's easily up here in the passes, but seattle, portland, 11 to 12 inches of snow coming down. winter watches and advisories all through the area. it will stop tonight, it will restart tomorrow for good. don't worry about this little lull you have. don't lull yourself into a sense of accomplishment, because i tell you what, the snow starts again tomorrow. that's why it's a 48-hour snowfall. now on to something i really don't like talking about, but i have to today.
pythons. i can't even look at this video. a new ban says you won't be able to sell them, own them or take them across state lines. we'll hear why this is going down. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ deep breath] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth!
or airport travel. i know the ban has been several years in the making with senator nelson there no florida partially leading the charge. tell me, what exactly is banned and why? >> what's banned is the burmese python and that's the big one, a couple species named the rock python and the anaconda. those are the species that are banned. the burmese python, because there could be up to 100,000 burmese pythons in the florida ever glglades on the loose. how did they get there? the scientists think maybe we have to go back 20 years to hurricane andrew when there was a lot of breeders out in the everglades. they were wiped out and a lot of these snakes they were breeding got away. and others got there because of people who had them as pets and said, you know what, this thing is getting a little too big to keep in that tank, so i'm just going to dump it in the everglades. you remember, brooke, those famous shots we've seen of the 16-foot, 18-foot python with the
alligator in its mouth, and then there's one more recently of the 75-pound deer inside of a python. so they've got to try and get rid of them. the problem is this ban is going to keep any future pythons, perhaps, out of the glades, but they've got this tremendous problem they still have to deal with now trying to eradicate and reduce the number out there now, and as you know, they love the everglades. the climate sper effeis perfect. >> i'm just so glad it's you rather than me having to cover this about the pythons. in fact, i do remember your role with them. roll it, roger. >> that's a good ten feet. oh, yeah, at least. >> why don't you take this side? >> no, you take that side. you take the head and i got the back end. >> um, zarrella, what was going on there? >> you know what, that was on the tamiami trail.
that's how prevalent they were out there. this is going back two and a half years, and there it was, right there on the side of the road. joe aur joe, a wild life expert, he's one of a dozen guys who actually had a license to go out and kill the pythons because they were so prevalent. he found that one for us without much difficulty in the matter of a couple hours driving at night on that road. you know what's interesting, though, brooke, we had a real bad cold snap a year or so ago, last winter, and it wiped out a tremendous amount of these pythons. of course, they're coming back now, but nature sometimes has a way of balancing things out. >> okay. john zarrella, thank you. so john provided the what here. the what is several types of pythons and the anaconda band. now the why. the u.s. wildlife service says snakes hurt wildlife.
jack hanna on the phone. jack hanna, you have a python at the zoo named after you, and the last time you and i were chatting, it was a story about the pythons in ohio. i assume this has the jack hanna stamp of approval? >> i lived in florida for a while. there's no doubt there is a tremendous problem and florida should have a ban. however, there are breeders who are reputable, who have the proper breeding, who could be responsible from keeping a lot of these pythons from becoming extinct. we have to have reputable breeders. remember something. this is me talking. this is not like the thing that happened in zanesville, ohio. for instance, you're not going to find a python in the state of montana. i take a python about two feet long to an accredited zoo. so we know what we're doing when it comes to the python.
that has to affect us. we have to apply for a permit, that takes about four months. i tell people that most people should not buy a python from a shop or wherever they buy them from, because when they do buy these things, they get big, and what do they do, they dump them. people dump them especially in florida, the warm weather state. to me, this is my opinion, it should be a state law just like the state of ohio is going to pass one of the toughest laws in the country in several weeks that deal with these lions, tigers, bears and that sort of thing. >> i understand they're dumping them in the everglades, and you heard john telling us, estimating about 100,000 of these pythons. why are people buying them? why are they importing them? >> you have to remember something. a lot of people are afraid of snakes, but some young kids who want to try to raise an animal, they see the little snakes in the shop. kids are fascinated about seeing snakes in the wild. they're fascinated about picking